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 12-13-2005, 14:13 Post: 120981
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 Let The Buyer Beware

This is somewhat difficult to talk about but if it helps someone else out then so be it. Shortly after the purchase of our hobby farm I started looking for a tractor. I'm not one to rush into a major purchase and I do a lot of research, which is what brought me to Tractor Point. 2 years ago I found what was a great deal on a 1999 TC33D New Holland ($8500). It had 1050hrs on it and was well used. The owner told me he was in the repossession business and he would buy tractors from the bank at a good price, use them for a while and then sell them.

It didn't have a serial number and reason given was, the loan defaulter would remove it so the bank wouldn't be able to make a positive ID. I thought, "makes sense and why would this guy lie"? He had 50+ acres, nice house, nice out buildings with more toys inside them.

Well 2 months ago I get a call from a local police officer saying that I bought a stolen tractor! I had to forfeit the tractor with no compensation. The guy was busted because of a fight with his old lady who turned him in. He had $300,000 worth of stolen vehicles on his property and had sold about 15 other stolen tractors. My only hope is that when the trial comes about the judge orders restitution.

When I first bought the tractor, I did try to find a serial number. But New Holland does not put any other numbers on their tractors except for a riveted plate on the transmission that can easily be popped off, even in field work.

I was going to wait until everything came to fruition to post this, but this has been happening a lot lately according to police and it seems some posters have been asking about this too. So the old adage is still true today, "Let the buyer beware".

P.S. Here in Pennsylvania. Any vehicle (even tractors) will be confiscated if the serial or VIN number has been tampered with or removed.






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 12-13-2005, 15:36 Post: 120990
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Well if possession is 9/10 of the law, I lose. They came and took it. I paid with a certified bank check (I guess the guy couldn't trust me, too many crooks out there). I did talk to a lawyer and he said wait to see if a judge orders restitution. The previous owner identified it with various markings and he bought it back from the insurance company.






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 12-13-2005, 20:29 Post: 121012
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"I was told, by a state trooper, that tractors have a hidden identification number."

That's what the state trooper told me too. But three hours later, 2 state troopers left with no identifying serial number. They said the transmission was changed, meaning there could have been a number there. The original owner did know certain things about it, like beauty marks on their wife I guess.

I appreciate the condolences. What's tough is that it's looking like a winter that I've hoped for and now I don't have a tractor. :^( I guess I have to live vicariously through you guys.






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